If you can get the TFF web to add a Knot Tying Section to the Education/Events/Rod Building/Knot Tying, all of us could benefit throughout the year, not just at this event. I have a number of locations I use to learn about New Knots,Old Knots, the strongest,etc.. I also have made a number of stands for this specific exercise. I will look all of them and make a list. TV has a Knot tying section on one of the Sat./Sun. morning stations called "Knot Wars".